KPTA Key Properties Town Advisory, having another go at their victims!

As incredible as it seems, KPTA – Key Properties Town Advisory has started to target yet again those consumers they have already duped in the past!

Key Properties Town Advisory SLwww.keypropertyadvisory.com – listed at the Spanish Companies House as a limited company, No. B92325679  operates from the Costa del Sol, Calle Córdoba 35, Edif. Villa Blanca 1C. Fuengirola 29640

Telephone numbers 952 198 614; 952 198 612; 952 585 681 and Fax: 952 469 865.

They have been active at least since 2002, claiming to be a kind of Class Action Law Firm, using the services of local lawyers working in Malaga area.

This firm has been under the spotlight of the Spanish European Consumer Centre due to its dubious business practices. Fabián Marcelo Ramirez is “officially” the company director of this firm and of two others companies known for its bogus modus operandi: Fuengirola Servicios 2002 SL and the one we have already on the blog; Ramirez & Ramirez Abogados SL. (http://mindtimeshare.me/?s=ramirez+%26+ramirez)

The European Consumer Centre in Madrid also placed a warning on their website about this company: http://cec.consumoinc.es/cec/Secciones/Alertas/Documentos/EN/noteKeyPropertyAdvisory.pdf

Key Properties Town Advisory SL uses the cold call approach, always asking for upfront payments, offering to take to court in Spain certain timeshare companies. Sometimes, they even inform consumers that the Spanish Government have closed down a bogus firm, freezing its bank accounts and that there is money to give back to this companies´ victims. However, in case any bogus firm was closed down, I can tell you that the Spanish authorities would never have given to Key Properties Town Advisory such lists in first place!

In February 2006, Spain’s National Police closed down five companies for “IVA+tax”, “Notary fee” and “money back” scams. Amongst them: Maritimo Marketing SL, Fuengirola Servicios 2002 SL (Fuengirola Services 2002 / Fuengirola 2000 SL) and Key Properties Town Advisory S.L. Over 30 individuals were taken under police custody and 20 computers and large numbers of forged documents were confiscated.

But unfortunately not all information must have been confiscated because this week we have started to receive numerous complaints from consumers who had paid money to KPTA – Key Properties Town Advisory before and have now been approached again to pay more money.

The agent on the phone claims the court case is still going and the money paid previously has now been spent on the legal fees and they need more funds from the consumers in order to continue their case!

So as it seems.. if it wasn’t enough getting the money out of consumers the first time round,  now they are having another go.

Have you paid money to Key Properties Town Advisory SL? Have they called you again? Or maybe Ramirez & Ramirez? Please let us know!

About mindtimeshare

Mindtimeshare is registered as a Spanish Association - reg number: G-98401524. Mindtimeshare provides assistance to timeshare owners who have been defrauded by holiday clubs and bogus resale companies. The Mindtimeshare project was launched in February 2011. After dealing with timeshare members over several years who had been defrauded by numerous bogus companies and for large amounts of money, I considered launching an Organisation to help timeshare owners that have been targeted by bogus companies. On this blog you can find information about the different active scam companies and their “modus operandi” and also place comments, ask questions and see comments from other consumers who have the same doubts or have been through the same experience. Mindtimeshare has resulted in a huge success and has received the back up from not only timeshare consumers but also from the professionals in the timeshare Industry. Mindtimeshare helps timeshare owners who have been scammed by bogus Discount Holiday Clubs; bogus cash back companies; fraudulent timeshare resale companies; bogus class action companies and false lawyers and notaries. We offer professional answers and advice to Timeshare users. If you want to send an email instead of posting a comment on the blog please do so by emailing: customercare@mindtimeshare.com
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32 Responses to KPTA Key Properties Town Advisory, having another go at their victims!

  1. Anne B says:

    My mother-in-law got her money back through the credit card company. A Northern Ireland company called Reclaim Direct U.K. did everything for her kept in weekly contact with ourselves and fought one of the transactions when the Bank said no, they managed to change their decision and that was refunded also. Reasonable rates also no upfront fees. Cant recommend them enough no hassle with a minefield. They are available on line.

    • Frisby says:

      I am so sorry to hear Key Properties are still at their tricks again. How do they continue with their SCAM. ALL I CAN SAY IS LEAVE THEM ALONE.——–DO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH THEM. GOOD LUCK.
      FRISBY

  2. Ruth says:

    I paid KPTA £350 up front to act against a timeshare firm. A the last we heard they were waiting for the court case. That was 3 years ago we obviously have been defrauded these people should be thrown in prison they are the lowest of the low. We are no longer able to contact them. How can this scum get away with it

  3. Gunn says:

    hei,vi har også betalt inn penger til key property advisory.ble kontaktet i 2009 av en svensk dame,med navn Eva Svensson,hun skulle hjelpe oss via spanske domstoler og få tilbake våre penger av viajes sonnentravel.har hatt jevnlig kontakt med henne pr.telefon og mail.siste telefon var i midten av juli,da sa hun at vi har vunnet saken,og at vi skulle ha pengene tilbake på vår konto i slutten av juli.har etter dette brøvd og få kontakt med henne ,men umulig,ringer jeg på det tlf.nr.som hun hadde,er det en spansktalende som svarer,og kjenner ingen Eva Svensson,svarer heller ikke på mail.tragisk…..

  4. Rich says:

    Have sent money to Key properties years ago then they rang this year saying that they require money for a procurator to release the money. I sent the money to Ramirez & Ramirez unfortunately have used Old bank account that is not required any more so can not claim money back. All this because of Club Class holidays don’t think I would ever trust holiday companies again.

    • Frisby says:

      Sorry to hear your news. Yes They are a scam, I am fortunate I was able to claim all our money back under the Consumer 75 credit —–? which we were very lucky. Sorry they are still up to their antics again. The only contact when phoning them was a lady called Gail. I don’t how these people sleep at night. yes we have dealings with Club Class by all accounts they are as bad that’s our next big hurdle to cross.

      .

  5. Aileen says:

    Have recently been cold called by Eric Hall from remirez and ramirez aka key properties,stating monies from court needs extra £290 for procurator to get cash released,Been sent forms to sign on line {not signed or replied,] receiverdsmany phonecalls one message on my phone todayIs this fraudulent company

  6. Sue says:

    yes I have paid key properties in the past, and I have just had a recorded message from a man claiming to be from them, saying that he has got good news,that they have finally got.some money for me, I have not rang them back,and I’m glad.I have read your info on them thanyou. sue.

  7. HMR says:

    I too paid money to KPTA in 2006 in order for them to take Club Class Holidays/ Holiday Warehouse to court. I tried prior to that to get my money refunded from my credit card company who refused. I heard notthing from them for years then I have been recently contacted by KPTA aka Ramirez and Ramirez informing me that the case has been successful. The monies are being held by the spanish courts and I need to pay a ‘procurator’ £290 in order to pursue my claim. This along with all other monies paid will of course be refunded to me! I returned their call after hearing a voicemal left for me. I have spoken to ‘Jo’ today and she has promised me an email with all the details. How come my credit card company refused to reimburse me when others have been successful?

  8. Wayne says:

    I have just been contacted by Key properties again this morning saying that the court case against etoo has been successful, and that the money to repay people is now with the courts. However there is a procurator who is apparently an independent person who apparently needs to be paid almost £300 pounds before he can take our claim to the judge in chambers. The person I spoke to is the same person I have spoken to before as i recognize his brummy accent. He was able to tell me the size of the claim we were pursuing and all fees paid so they clearly have a database of peoples details. I told him I was extremely skeptical and that we had basically written the previous money off and chalked it up to experience. He told me he would send out the forms etc and I asked him if he would also send me details of their company so I could check them out, as previously I had not been able to contact them. I also tried to recall the number using 14713 but it appears the number was not left. We will see if he does sent me details. I want these parasites to be held accountable

    • Frisby says:

      f
      FRISBY says definately SCAM I paid a lot of money to them plus more money to RAMIEREZ & REMARIERZ same people they did not do anything with their promices and never heard any more from them and I claimed back all money paid on our credit cards under the 75 credit act and recieved every penny back. GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE.

  9. Elizabeth says:

    I have been dealing with Keytown Advisory for some years and in recent times sent money for a Procurator so it looks as though I have lost even more, I really thought they were genuine

  10. Rena says:

    We were contacted 31. 01. 2013, from keyproperties promising us £9.836.00. against clubclass, we have been conned in the passed by sc** like them, this lady asked us to pay them £290. and even sent me an e-mail, she said we would get all of the money back, as it would be put into our account, haha joke, we have been done before, this lady phoned us again 01.02.2013, i said i was busy. said she would phone back on monday, I may be in my 70s but i`m stupid,I have looked on the internet and found that most of these companies are a sc**, we paid around £5,000. in 2002 so now they said that they will get over £9.000. we did recieve about £1.500, these sc*****s should be put away.

    • Frisby says:

      CLAIM BACK ON YOUR CREDIT CARDS UNDER THE 75 CREDIT CONSUMER ACT. I GOT EVERY PENNY BACK

      • mark says:

        Hi How do you go about getting the claim back on a credit card as never had to claim before and what would we need

      • Hi Mark,
        No problem, we will let you know by email what we need and provide you with guidelines on how to claim.
        So many people before you have been successful so let’s see if we can also help you!
        We will be emailing you.
        Kind regards
        Customer Care

      • Zoltan says:

        Good luck Mark !
        I tried similar procedure against KPTA a couple of years ago. I failed as I keep no credit cards and paid them upfront with cheques. Now I learned to keep away from any shady Spanish companies and Lawyers with their promises. It would be the ultimate satisfaction to all casualty customers to make conscious effort to enhance a bad publicity campaign against their scandals. if the law of that country is uncapable to cease them operating, the general public might succeeed and could eventually wipe them out of existence.

  11. Les says:

    I have just been cold called from Key Properties Town Advisory
    and asked for £280 up front for a procurator for an imminent court case
    against White Bay international
    who frauded £5000 from me because. My claim arrived one day early
    I don’t doubt if all the requirements had been satisfied, I would still have waved goodbye to my supposed refund
    incidentally Club Class are sending me threatening e-mails and Phone calls for an anual membership fee which I cancelled when I was frauded by Whitebay.

  12. Frisby says:

    Just another point our refund was helped by our local TRADING STANDARDS OFFICER who has helped us. Give them a try all free.THEY HAVE GOT SOME MORE MONEY BACK FOR US, from LIABILITY RELEASE CONSULTANTS LTD. DOUGLAS WINTERBOTTOM. who came to our home and we paid him money to him to relinquish our BEVERLY HILLS CLUB, which never happened and thanks to the lady from T/STANDARDS found they had ceased trading back in April 2012 so recieved all the money back off another credit card. GOOD LUCK

  13. Frisby says:

    We have been in the same trap. Good news we have had the money we paid to Key Properties in 2006 refunded back to us from the credit card we used over £ 2,000 can’t remember the exact ammount as we are on holiday at the Devoncourt T/Sh in Exmouth Devon. We have another claim pending over Ramirez to be settled from Ramirez. Good luck everyone it’s worth persuing.

    Warning——- NOT ALL COLD CALLS ARE SCAMS—— WE HAD A WITH HELD CALL WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE THE DOCTOR AND MEDICAL CENTRE.So it dosen’t pay to ignore them.

  14. RMV says:

    Yes, have been caught in the same trap & now see that their office in Fuengirola has closed!!!
    This has cost me 2040euros in 2006 with no results.R.M.V.

    • Frisby says:

      good news we have had our money we paid them refunded off our credit card still waiting for another amount from Ramirez. Good luck to yourselves hope you will be lucky too.

  15. Al says:

    I was contacted by KPTA in 2006. They offered to try to recover money I had paid to around 6 Spanish-based holiday/timeshare companies. A fee was requested, and in my naivety, it was paid. In early 2007 I received a letter from KPTA in which they said they were entrusting my claims as part of a class action ‘CLUB CLASS CORPORATION’ through the lawyer Mrs Sara Lia Vilas and ‘her collaborators’. (What an apt phrase!!). The only communication since then was in 2009, and was a letter from KPTA asking for a signature on a payment slip for Legal Services against Holiday Advice Bureau, one of the companies I have a claim against. Since then – nothing!

    • Hi Al,
      Thanks for your comment.
      Yes this certainly sounds like KPTA, courtcase, claims, a lot of bla bla…but nobody ever get’s anywhere.
      Next step will be that the case has been refused or they need to go higher up, and oh yes we need more money from you or we exclude you from the case..
      Please don’t fall for that one!
      We will email you more information and hopefully you can recover the money.
      Regards
      Customer Care

    • Frisby says:

      CLAIM BACK YOUR MONEY FROM CREDIT CARDS AND TRADING STANDARDS

      • Sue says:

        hi my name is Sue. how would I go about finding out about this,as it was back in 2006 and don’t have the credit card anymore .

      • Hi Sue,
        We have tried to email you but it bounced back.
        Please send us a direct message to customercare@mindtimeshare.com so we can send you the information.
        Kind regards

        Customer Care

      • ROGER says:

        Hi I have a similar problem, I think, as Sue. I entered into a ‘contract’ with Key properties back in  2004 – 2006  & now do not have a credit card account with the company through which I made the payment for ‘enabling’ my time share weeks to be sold.  I do have an account with Credit Expert who will have a record of the the credit card company through which the payment was made. Is there any chance of recuperation of any sort with this information? Roger

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  16. Hi I just want to let you know that I too have paid over £700 to key properties advisory services in Spain.Was promosed that they would instruct their lawyers on my behalf to fight this case and assured me that they would win the case against Club Class holidays for me and that I would get my money back.That was about 4 years ago and I have just contactd them again and they say that Club Class are now trading under a different name and that they have to start all over again
    I am a widow and can ill afford to lose £700 on top of what was originally paid to this bogus holiday company.They are scum and definitely be stopped
    Monca Meehan

  17. william says:

    I have paid monies to Key Properties 4 or 5 years ago, I recently rang them & was told Club Class (who I was Claiming against) had been declared bankrupt & are now trading as Club Class Concierge, so the have to start a new court case. However, they have not asked for any mor money

  18. S.Walsh says:

    Quite some years ago we paid a conbsiderable sum to Fuengorola Services and then a follow up amount to look into Reclaim for us.. Result nothing on both counts.

    • Dear Mr. Walsh,
      Thanks for your comment.
      This is one of the companies that were raided by the police also in February 2006.
      Please do send us more info as there might be still a possibility to recover the money paid to this company.
      Kind regards
      Customer Care

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