Mindtimeshare´s thoughts, The Truth –

Since the start of Mindtimeshare we have seen a great number of timeshare owners who traded in their ownerships for holiday club memberships. Despite the contractual promises made by the marketers of the holiday clubs, that they would change the ownerships of the timeshares to their names, still many holiday club members continue receiving the demands to pay for their timeshares annual maintenance fees. Basically they fell into the holiday club trap.

We have also come across with many hard evidences of sheer misrepresentation in the marketing of Cashback. The promises of a 100% cashback return as verbally said in the sales presentations, have never been honoured. We have many cases of victims of Cashback, who were promised a 100% cashback refund, but whom years after have realised that everything was a scam.

After many years of lodging complaints, finally in 2011, the British Authorities decided to close down one of the big web of companies marketing holiday club memberships, Incentive Leisure Group.

The other group marketing holiday club memberships, Club Class, has also its days numbered, as finally the British Authorities (High Court) are assessing whether to close down seven of their companies operating in British Soil. The hard evidences on Club Class modus operandi are quite clear, and they should not be allowed to continue operating in the UK.

However, Club Class continues operating with a similar modus operandi, and is already working hard in developing new schemes. ITRA & EFTAG are not only their main set ups, as we will be informing our readers about a great new number of new companies created by Club Class, some in the pipeline, and others already operating.

One wonders what kind of credibility can have Club Class when the list of complaints against this web of companies is huge!

Knowing perfectly well the modus operandi of Club Class and its Class Action ITRA (backed up with countless hard evidences), one wonders who this group has the moral authority to lodge a class action suit against another company.

How can the British and Spanish Authorities allow that a group of companies, which have allegedly misled thousands of European consumers, use the tools of the legal system to continue operating, and embark themselves in alleged legal actions?

For how long will we have to wait? How many new complaints Mindtimeshare has to receive by consumers – mostly timeshare owners – against Club Class / ITRA?

We should demand an urgent action by the UK and Spanish Authorities. In Spain the spotlight should be focused in Andalusia region (Costa del Sol is part of it) and in the Canary Islands.

Alleged victims of ETOO, Club Class, ITRA, Premiere Travel, Cashback Europe & EFTAG, should stand up and begin the fight!

The British High Court and the Spanish Courts where preliminary investigations are taking place on Club Class should be made aware of this group of companies’ modus operandi.

 

About mindtimeshare

Mindtimeshare SLU is registered Company reg number: B35957182 Mindtimeshare provides assistance to timeshare owners who have been defrauded by holiday clubs and bogus resale companies. The Mindtimeshare project was launched in February 2011. After dealing with timeshare members over several years who had been defrauded by numerous bogus companies and for large amounts of money, I considered launching an Organisation to help timeshare owners that have been targeted by bogus companies. On this blog you can find information about the different active scam companies and their “modus operandi” and also place comments, ask questions and see comments from other consumers who have the same doubts or have been through the same experience. Mindtimeshare has resulted in a huge success and has received the back up from not only timeshare consumers but also from the professionals in the timeshare Industry. Mindtimeshare helps timeshare owners who have been scammed by bogus Discount Holiday Clubs; bogus cash back companies; fraudulent timeshare resale companies; bogus class action companies and false lawyers and notaries. We offer professional answers and advice to Timeshare users. If you want to send an email instead of posting a comment on the blog please do so by emailing: customercare@mindtimeshare.com
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24 Responses to Mindtimeshare´s thoughts, The Truth –

  1. Pauline says:

    Dear Alberto, I have just been cold called by a company called Gold Crown Solutions wanting to get money back for me from previous scam companies. They want £600 up front and say they are absolutely genuine. Do you know of their existance, should I go ahead please?
    Thanks in anticipation
    Pauline

  2. susan says:

    my parents bought into club class holidays and are at moment being asked to pay the 95 membership fee. they think they should pay this fee because if they dont then they wont get there cashback from the solicitors firm sochalls. has anyone heard of these and has anyone got any money back from these. should my parents pay this fee just in case.

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  3. Hamish says:

    I think Club Class are now going through an identity crisis – or is that just a cover for preparing to do a runner before reappearing as a new scam?
    I have received an email from yet another Club Class company offering to get my money back from my dealings with a “fraudulent” time share company. So a Club Class business wants to get my money back from the fraudulent Club Class and sell me a new Club Class membership at the same time.

  4. Hamish says:

    Still no letter from Club Class but another call from a resale group – name not clear and number “unavailable” as usual – saying they had details indicating that as I did not use Club Class any more; they could help me sell my share. I asked from where and how they got my details and they hung up before I could.

  5. David says:

    I recently had a call from Excalbur who said they could sell my Club class membership on but needed a payment that would be refunded when they had sold it and the money they got from the sale had been transferred to me.
    I realised soon after that it might be to good to be true and looking on the web regarding this company it was a con.I am now trying to get the money refunded via the credit card it was taken from,
    I wanted to get rid of my club class membership(exchanged time share for it) and it now seems that club class is also a con. Unfortunately I have been with them for a few years now but have never used them yet due to medical problems so I would like to get out of there company. How do I go about this as I will be suspicious of anyone saying they can sell it for me. I seem to be locked up in several moves from timeshare to club class and now buyers.
    Who can I trust to sell this membership and get my money back and forget about all this or am I stuck?

  6. Hamish says:

    I am waiting for a letter from Club Class as they have reminded me that I have not paid my membership fees for almost ten years ( I refuse to answer unidentified callers any more on the grounds that they are nearly always scams). I originally wrote to them after a series of my complaints were ignored – I was actually told that they very rarely got complaints and that any complaints were always dealt with promptly! More likely straight into the waste paper bin! I told them that as they were incompetent at managing my requests and probably criminally negligent in dealing with me they would get no more monies from me. The next call was from a self-claimed timeshare resale service which after checking turned out to be yet another Club Class company. I am no longer surprised by the sheer number of scam entities created by Club Class. I had the usual threats of legal action and debt collectors being sent but The (UK) limitations Act 1980 states that after 6 years the claimed debt is “Statute Barred”. Similar law applies in the the EEC and the USA but I do not know the details.

  7. Ann says:

    Has anyone heard of PH Legal from Colston who are offering to find out for you if you have a claim?
    We had someone else yesterday I did not make a note of the name of the company as they said they would email details, but I have received nothing yet, these people are claiming that the office of fair trading has taken DWVC etc. to court recently and they wish to give us a free assessment to see if we would have a claim. When I asked if if we had a claim what would it cost us to receive the money, she said she did not know as this was not her job.
    Are there any honest people out there?

  8. SUE says:

    we were also duped by etoo and club class and have lost thousands and stand to lose our home through these people so lets hope we can stop them trading so no more hard working people get ripped off please keep me informed

  9. glyn wakeham says:

    should i pay my yearly fee to club class, if i do not ,can they do anything they have said they will fine me

    • philip says:

      We also stopped paying our membership. They will call you several times to convince + write emails, but I still did not pays. Since several weeks they leave me quiet now.

  10. Patsy Russell says:

    If Club Class International has gone into liquidation and Cub Class Concierge comes under their umbrella, has Club Class concierge gone into liquidation also? Also does anybody know if a GB Marketing (Great British Marketing S L) was owned by Club Class Concierge?

  11. I have also got mandates to fill in from club class, for my monthly fee, even got a phone call to fill it in & send it back immediately. Desperate times hey. Who do we complain to in the UK to get something done about this & the numerous calls for people wanting to sell our membership. (as if)

  12. Well, we knew it was coming, and its a pleasure to note that it will be sooner than later!!
    PS Am now being pushed to complete next years fees mandate by Club Class Plc., in Tenerife. C/o P.O. box at Garrison House, 3 Library Ramp, Gibraltar. Wont be sending it back as I don’t think they will be around by then. I smell another liquidation coming-on.?!
    Keep up the good work, Wish I had found your site years ago. Regards George

  13. Nicholas Garland says:

    My partner has a time share in Tenerife which she has owned since the mid 90`s. It has the clause in ownership of `In perpetuity` attached. We have tried to sell it, but as you are well aware you can not even give them away. I/we believe this clause in this day and age is unreasonable. unfortunately she only had a `verbal` assurance when purchased that if she so wished the site owners could sell it at a later date. despite requests to take it back/sell it nothing has happened.
    Would we be persued in court in the UK if we refused to pay future maintenance bills?
    We would appreciate any comments on this issue.

    • john says:

      Taking you to court for maintenance bill is not worth the evert they will contact two or three times then you will not hear anymore beware after several years after your maintenance has accumulated to thousands they will take you to court.

  14. Jeanette Montgomery, says:

    Alberto, it was incentive leisure that we sold timeshare to and had to buy holiday membership from designer way which cost £7000. If government closed incentive leisure last year is there a chance we could get money back. What about cash back scheme which was part of it. We claim back in 2014.we have it in writing that the most we will get is 70percent and lowest 19percent. Has tmhis gone too. I always look for your comments. They give us a little hope. What about Stirling do edgy our recent cold callers. I posted you their details.

    Jeanette

    • Hi Jeanette,
      Thanks for your comment.
      We will email you the details and let’s see if you have a possibility to recover the money.
      About Stirling, we emailed you yesterday. We need more information, or if anyone from the blog readers have received calls as well we would really like to know!
      Kind regards
      Customer Care

  15. Philip says:

    My parents in law also got scammed by Club class concierge + MultiCorpSpain. In 2009 they were approached by MultiCorpSpain with the promise to sell their current timeshare in Albir Garden (Altea, 5 km north of Benidorm). Promise to sell on TimeShareOnly and Century21. My parents in Law invested 27500€ in a cashback formula, 3 years repayment. In mean time, timeshare was not sold and since 2 years it is impossible to get in contact with MultiCorpSpain, vanished!. Last year we went to court in Benidorm + raised a complaint against MultiCorpSpain, Albir Garden, Club Class Concierge for their contribution in this scam. Complaint is formally accepted by court, but up till now no progress, no reaction. We also raised a complaint to the Commercial department in Alfas del Pi. There we received a letter, investigation is ongoing, but also no progress. I do not have the impression the Spanish court or government is interested in this matter. Please give me advice what next steps we should take. This scam should stop !

    • Hi Philip,
      Thanks for your comment.
      We will be emailing you with all the relevant information.
      The courts in Spain are very slow, although with the change of government it seems they are going to divert certain issues and relieve the long “waiting list”.
      Kind regards
      Customer Care

  16. 10sylvia48 says:

    i think this is brilliant, thank you please keep us informed as it happens the sooner club class get taken to court the better so that no more people can get scammed by them

  17. Hi Alberto. Nice to see your comments on this and I have to say in the last 9 years dealing with Club La Costa and gaining knowledge of other RDO members, that I too believe firmly that this Cashback concept should be outlawed. I would also like to point out that other organisations are also offering new products within their portfolio, whereby a sum of money needs to be handed over to get the new product, which in some cases appear to be the same product, but with just a few differences. Do you think that should be allowed?j Its a bit like a Trade In as well. Should Trade ins be allowed within the same company as well as another company. Many of our members have been invited to or actually attended presentations from other companies, whereby they were offered cash incentives. They were usually offered another product as well, or they were given Free Holidays, that were touted as being worth a sum of money. I have the evidence, and again, and RDO Member is involved. As ever, I hope you publish this information and not seek to protect RDO Members but not publishing. I haven’t quoted any names, so you should have no reason to not publish. If MindTimeShare is going to be successful and true to its aims with and intact reputation, then you must engage at all levels of protecting all consumers with all organisations in the holiday business. Thanks.

    • Dear Robert,
      Many thanks for your comment.
      Regarding the issue of the trade-ins, the ones we denounce here are the ones from Club Class and other dubious Holiday Clubs where it turns out that the trade-in does not happen as such and the timeshare owner ends up owning two things. This is clearly a mis-representation and breach of contract for which the timeshare owner can claim a refund of the money paid.
      If you say that there are products on the market where this is is happening as well, independently if these are or not RDO or TATOC members, you should certainly bring this to the attention of the RDO and TATOC who are the main bodies that watch over these kind of issues.
      Kind regards
      Customer Care

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