Ever since we placed the blog about TS Consultants http://wp.me/p1kmoi-9t we were wondering what their meeting was about with the “unconditional offer” for the timeshare resale to corporate buyer.
Well now we know, as we had the feedback from several consumers who actually went to the meeting in Mallorca and they have explained who was behind the meeting.
PDCI or Property Development Consultants International is the people doing the presentation. They offer an exit program or a timeshare disposal which takes up 5 years but there is a Cashback attached which is called Loyalty Reward Scheme SL, with address in Apartado de Correos 837, de Torremolinos.
PDCI SL is registered at the Spanish Companies House, but they are actually a company who went through a name change in April this year. The previous name was Marina Leisure Balearic Islands, and alarm bells are starting to ring with that name.
Marina Leisure had another branch on the Costa del Sol which was inviting consumers over for resale. Once in Spain Marina Leisure offered a bogus holiday club discount membership, Voyager Holidays, valued at several thousand euros to the consumers who signed their timeshare over and became members of this worthless Discount Travel Club.
Most probably the fact that Marina Leisure is mentioned in a lot of forums and blogs has made the people behind this set up decide to change the name.
So now we have TS Consultants and PDCI inviting yet again people over for resale and coming up with another very dubious offer. At the meeting they explain they can dispose of people’s timeshare but it takes time and money although “never more” than he would pay in maintenance fees. For example a consumer who wanted to dispose of his points was requested £8000. Supposedly PDCI would start the process of the disposal of the timeshare and it would take up to 5 years. At the end of the 5 years the timeshare owner could claim on his Loyalty Reward Scheme SL and would receive up to £20,000 (although the guaranteed minimum is £1,000).
At the meeting consumers are asked to pay a deposit of £1000 and the rest sum to be paid in several days by cheque.
Another testimonial tells us: “At the meeting, they signed a form which I think said that after paying an upfront fee of £1000 (admin) via Credit card, than a further £4645(admin) in 1 months’ time, they would be in a scheme called Royal Reward Scheme, which would pay them an amount not exceeding £11645 in 5 years so long as they send in some form each year.
Yes, that’s £5645 admin fees so that they can get back these fees plus £6000 in 5 years’ time. I think not”
Obviously time will tell but with all the information above, we don’t think we need to wait 5 years to see if all the promises are true or not.
Cold calls, payments upfront and promises of disposal of timeshare even for those who own at resorts who don’t allow disposing of the timeshare…it doesn’t look very good.
Have you been to a meeting from PDCI? Or have you been invited by TS Consultants and are waiting to go to this presentation? Please let us know!
Mindtimeshare 
When signing up with PDCI and you have handed over your hard earned money or savings you are
given a membership of a so called holiday agency by the name of (Leisure around the world) has anybody tried booking anything via this company I would really like to know ,are they a con or are
they bonafide and comparable..
Delboy
Hi anybody know where P.D.C.I have move to if so do you have address.
Regards Derek
I’d like to share our experience of PDCI with you.We were invited to their premises in Majorca in Sept 2011 to “sell” our points holding with RCI.A third party who set this up told us they were willing to buy our points for £27,000.After a long meeting with PDCI were were advised that our points would transfer to Vacation Consultants a few weeks later but we had to pay a fee of nearly £10,000.We would then have to join the loyalty reward scheme and might receive up to £49,995 in five years time.
We were told that we would still have to pay the maintenance fees for 2012,which we did,and them assumed that would be the end of paying fees altogether.However we received a demand for the fees for 2013 at the end of last year.I emailed PDCI to clarify the situation but they never replied.I emailed them again last week but the email was returned as undelivered.The pdci.es website seems to no longer exist.
I’d like to share our experience of PDCI with you.We were invited to their offices in Sept 2011 to rid ourselves of RCI points.We were told on the phone that a buyer had been found and willing to pay £27,000 for our holding.We should have known it was too good to be true.
In the end we had to pay nearly £10,000 to join the loyalty reward scheme mentioned by some above with the possibility of receiving close to £50,000 in five years time.Ownership of our points would transfer to Vacation Consultants Ltd within a few weeks.As RCI required a notice period of resignation we would be liable for the maintenance fees for 2012.We paid those fees thinking that would be the end of the matter.However we received a demand at the end of 2012 for fees for this year,2013.I emailed PDCI to clarify the situation at the end of last year but they never replied.I emailed them again last week but the email was returned as undelivered.The pdci.es website seems to no longer exist.
Hi
Have just recived my check back from Marina Leisure that was sent back in Febuary. It seems as if we have been done as well. went out to Malaga in March 09 paid over £7,995 plus £95 each Febuary. And was due to get £16,845 back after the 5 years. As with a lot of you they have my Timeshare and points (so now waiting for a demand from the time share for unpayed maintinance). As anyone any thoughts on what to do next.
Hi
I foolishly became involved with this company also. Apart from the annoyance of participating in their reward scheme, my timeshare did not transfer which they also took moeny for . Hence we are still paying the maintenance fees on it… Has anyone else had this type of problem with them, and if so how did you reslove it. I live in the UK..
Hello,
It seems we were not the only ones, which gives us some peace of mind but it does not alter the fact that companies like these get away with duping hard earned money out of decent people.
Question is for us do we pursue the matter considering we do have documentation stating we no longer have our points with Diamond resorts. The money we paid out on the points and fees to this so called resale company is much needed as it would help pay off several things, we don’t hold out for any reimbursement, but it’s a huge lesson we learnt. We tried all the email and phone numbers even sent off out last cheque (which we got back unopened) to see if all the information was true, I don’t wish these people well I hope they suffer in the long run as I believe that justice will be done, but I don’t believe we will see our money again.
Hello! I myself was coned out off 8000 euro by Marina Leisure S.L (june 2010) on the above pretexts and have paid visit to their office in Benamadana to expidite same? Also have been too advice office in Benamadana Costa to no avail!
Hi,
I too sent off again our cheque for £95 this year, but it could not be delivered I cancelled the cheque, we have lost a lot of money but do have a letter from Diamond Resorts to say our points were transferred and I have found all other paperwork regarding Marina Leisure, so do we proceed to try and get money owed for points re the loyaltyreward scheme or do we just let it go and put it down to experience? This all took place in July 2009.
Sorry Paul it is hotmail .com and not co.uk
Hi Paul,try the address that i have supplied you can also try there email address,i received this on 30.11.2011 as well.
loyaltyrewardscheme@hotmail.co.uk
Hi if Marina Leisure and P D C I are one of the same then myself and my wife have been turned over as you have.
Loyalty Reward Scheme S.L address is as follows.
Loyalty Reward Scheme S.L. Calle Verdi 8, San Raimundo,Rancho Domingo,29639 Benalmadena
Pueblo,Malaga,Spain.
I do hope you are wrong because we are heavy loosers like yourself
Hi,
the address on my Reward scheme from Marina Leisure/Voyager
was a torremelinos address that does not exist
any more
We also have been given an address in Torremelinos which doesnt exist. We were promised a cheque for over £12.0000 pounds after a 5 year period. We were very distressed to realise we have been conned like so many other people. Very upsetting !! How can they keep on getting away with this scam ?
Hi
What can I say, except, we were also duped by Marina Leisure. We gave them £5,995 plus the pleasure of our timeshare, plus £95 a year for the last 4 years – 2012 being our last payment before the Loyality Reward Kicked in. Wow – we thought we would receive £16,995 in October 2012. But this dream was crashed when through the Signed for Post tracking system we realised that our last cheque was not delivered. It should have been there on 15 Febuary 2012. The tracking system showed that the Spanish Co Correos.ES, had tried to deliver the letter Three times (yes three times) but all on the same day – can you believe it. And then decided to return the letter to us on the 2 Feb – we still await the letters return. Like every one esle I have been trying to contact either Marina Leisure or Voyager Experience and even Loyalty Reward Scheme S.L. As you can gather had no luck what so ever.
hi
i am in exactly the same boat as everbody else regarding Marina Leisure
we sold both our timeshares and paid £7500 for the membership
with the promise of getting it all back in June 2012
we were in benalmadena in Oct 2011, and found out that they had gone bankrupt
and nobody knows where they are
we have now also found out that we still own the deeds for our timeshares and are due
back maintenence payments
is there a way of forming some type of partnership ammonsgt the people concerned to see if we can track them down and get our money back
Hi Tim,
Adding to my last reply I have since contacted consumer direct and they siad to send out the cheque as normal to see if it is signed for! But they also gave me a phone number for Euru consumer so i thought you would like to know this as well, as they obviously deal with European consumer complaints, 08456040503. These will be my next port of call as I am expecting my cheque to return should know within a couple of weeks at the latest. Hope this is of help.
Hi Lottie here again I would appreciate some urgent help on this matter ie such as a phone number or email address as the ones I have don’t work, like the previous person before me on this page we too have paid money and awaiting a payout in three yeras time, feel such an idiot now. Nay suggestions would be grateful.
My mother a few years ago fell prey to Marine Leisure S.L and signed a contract handing over money and also the deeds to the timeshare plus a load of RCI points. She is now getting court action letters from the timeshare creditors to pay the missing annual service fee’s as the deeds are still in my mothers name. I have tried tracking this company to contact them but have failed dismally due to their name changes. I guess that for me expensive legal action is the only way from here unless anyone has any other ideas please.
Hi Tim,
I’m so sorry to hear about your mum and you having to seek legal action, I am in the process of contacting Consumer Direct, but my husband and myself don’t hold out much hope of retreiving any money, I say “fortunately” we don’t no longer have our diamond points as we actually received conformation of the sale . But it still doesn’t alter the fact that this so called company have “stolen” from us, we were hoping (foolishy now) that in 5years we would have received a nice little lump sum, its heartbreaking and if we all had hindsight then we wouldn’t be in the situation we are in now, I feel sick at the thought that we seem unable to trace these cold hearted people, both me and my husband can take the knock but for your mum its not fair or for you. I will let you know how we proceed and the outcome, will be in touch, good luck.
Hi,
At last some news on Marinaleisure SL, we too have been duped by this company, unfotunately we bought into the Loyalty Reward Scheme and have been sending off our cheque for £95 for the last two years, we did receive, on both occassions confirmation upon receipt and also confirmation from the “new owners of our timeshare” and we stupidly beleieved that in 5 years time would get a lovely lump sum of £23,000, but I have been unable to contact them either by email or phone over the past couple of days, to say I’m upset is not quite how I would state my feelings at this particular time, numb more like it as I haven’t got a clue as to what to do next? Any thoughts ( be it apart from stupid people) would be grateful, always the optimist.
Lottie.
I was contacted 1n 2008 by Marina Leisure and went to Benalmedina and completed the sale of my timeshare but it cost me about £7000 and the transfer of my Deeds. I am supposed to receive a sum of money back from them after 5 years but now that I have a laptop to play with and after reading some of the items I dont hold out much hope of getting any returns.Do not travel to sell your timeshare they are all a scam as far as I can see.
Dear William,
Thanks for your comment.
You are o so right when stating that travelling to sell a timeshare is not good news and people should refrain from doing this.
Unfortunately you paid to Marina Leisure, and we will send you more information regarding this to see if maybe you are still on time or in a position to claim a refund.
Kind regards
Customer Care
My Wife & I were contacted by A-S Services of Palma Mallorca who said they had a buyer for our RCI Timeshare points, but we had to attend a face to face meeting in Palma, We had to pay our own air fares and Hotel bill, but we would get all our expenses refunded when the sale was completed, We were collected from our Hotel by a young lady and driven for about 10-15 mins, to some offices ajacesent to a golf course, the buyer was PDCI, After about 4 hours of spiel and graphs, To our Shock & horror, we realised they wanted a fee of £10.000, £900 there & then, and the rest to be paid in 1 months time, It would take 5 years to get our Money back, by some Cash Back scheme, we were furious, and to their surprise, we refused to sell them our timeshare. we flew home the next day, what was a very expensive short Weekend.
I have had a phone call from a Holiday Rentals stating that they have a buyer for my DWVC. They state that they have a buyer offering them approximately £8000.00 but want Eu 1195.00 for admin fees.
Any information regarding this firm will be gratefullt received
Andy
Dear Mr. Jones,
Thanks for your message. There are actually various articles published on this blog about Holidat Rentals Direct and numerous comments from consumers who paid them the upfront fees and didn’t get any sale out of it!
We will send you more information by email.
Kind regards
Customer Care